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[Sverre G. S. Melleby]

Hi!

I am in the early stages of planning a figurevignette with a Sherman backdrop. The figures are from SS Hitler Jugend div. in Normadie, but I am unsure about what type of sherman I should use!

British or American? Firefly? M4A1, M4A2, M4? Short or long barrel? Cast or welded hull?
Do any of you guys have a tip?


Thank you!

-Sverre

[Øyvind Leonsen]

Hi Sverre,

try this PDF file:

http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/ADADD5C6-9F34-4A94-AD03-5C915E25AD51/0/ww2_caen.pdf

it contains some info on the fighting at Caen between the 7th Armoured Division and the 12. SS. Also with some pictures.

Øyvind

[Øyvind Leonsen]

Sverre,

have you considered the Tamiya Cromwell or Churchill as a backdrop BTW?

Øyvind

[Sverre G. S. Melleby]

Thank you for your help, Øyvind!

Yes I have thought about a Churchill or a Cromwell, but I have found out that I want to use the high profile of the Sherman with its turret.
Both the Cromwell and the Churchill doesnt quite fit the scene I have in mind, the Churcill because of the wide area between the fenders and the turret, and the Cromwell because of its fenders. The Sherman is a bit more compact along the sides!
But thank you very much for the tip! It makes me think a bit more of composition and such!

At the moment I am leaning towards a Firefly but I appreciate everyones comments, thoughts, ideas and input!

-Sverre

[Bård Gundersen]

I found this the other day. Not in Europe I know, but...



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What Sherman fought HJ in Normandie?

[Martin Dogger]

Hi there,

I know it´s an old topic, but I´ve just registered here.
The HJ Division fought the British forces in Normandy. Your best bet would be to use either an M4A2 or M4A4. The latter can be a 75mm gun tank or a Firefly. Give me some time to dig up the references and I´ll let you know more.

Cheers, MartinD

[Sverre G. S. Melleby]

Hi Martin!
The vignette is still in the planning stages, so all input and info is great!

I have setteled for a Firefly, but if you have any information about units and such it would be of great interest!

Thanks!!

-Sverre

[Martin Dogger]

Hi Sverre,

Firefly? Nice 
I think you'll want to get one of the Tasca kits. I've been building one up over the last month or so.


Excellent kit but a little TLC it can be improved.

Cheers, MartinD

What Sherman fought HJ in Normandie?

[Sverre G. S. Melleby]

Firefly? Nice  
I think you'll want to get one of the Tasca kits.

Tasca Firefly is already in the stash!

-Sverre

[Martin Dogger]

Hi Sverre,

I've been looking in my references. 12th SS 'Hitlerjugend' mostly fought against Canadian troops in Normandy.
Here's some good information on the operation fought by Canadian units in Normandy.
http://www.canadiansoldiers.com/history/campaigns/northwesteurope/normandy.htm

Here's the order of battle for the II Canadian Corps in Normandy:
    * II Canadian Corps (January 15, 1943 to June 25, 1945)
          o 2nd Canadian Corps Defence Company (Lorne Scots)
          o 2nd Canadian Infantry Division
          o 3rd Canadian Infantry Division
          o 4th Canadian (Armoured) Division
          o 1st Polish Armoured Division, August 1944 to May 1945
          o 15th (Scottish) Infantry Division, January to March, 1945
          o 51st (Highland) Infantry Division, August 1944
          o 2nd Canadian Armoured Brigade
          o 33rd Armoured Brigade, August 1944, Operation TOTALIZE
          o 1st Belgian Infantry Brigade, April 1945
          o Royal Netherlands Motorized Infantry Brigade, August 1944
          o 1st Czechoslovak Armoured Brigade, October-November 1944

The red units are most appropriate for you.

Hope this helps,

MartinD

[Sverre G. S. Melleby]

Thanks a bunch, Martin!

Invaluble information for someone like me!

-Sverre

[Martin Dogger]

Hi Sverre,

Any progress (or a start) on this one?
 

Cheers, MD